
{"id":19669,"date":"2009-11-26T00:23:22","date_gmt":"2009-11-25T23:23:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.comicbox.com\/?p=19669"},"modified":"2009-11-26T00:43:04","modified_gmt":"2009-11-25T23:43:04","slug":"avant-premiere-vo-ultimate-comics-avengers-4","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.comicbox.com\/index.php\/news\/avant-premiere-vo-ultimate-comics-avengers-4\/","title":{"rendered":"Avant-Premi\u00e8re VO : Ultimate Comics Avengers #4"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"19670\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.comicbox.com\/index.php\/news\/avant-premiere-vo-ultimate-comics-avengers-4\/attachment\/ultimatea-4\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.comicbox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/UltimateA.jpg?fit=70%2C70&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"70,70\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Avant-Premi\u00e8re VO : Review Ultimate Avengers #4\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.comicbox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/UltimateA.jpg?fit=70%2C70&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-19670\" style=\"margin-left: 4px; margin-right: 4px;\" title=\"Avant-Premi\u00e8re VO : Review Ultimate Avengers #4\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.comicbox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/UltimateA.jpg?resize=70%2C70\" alt=\"Avant-Premi\u00e8re VO : Review Ultimate Avengers #4\" width=\"70\" height=\"70\" \/>[FRENCH] Un num\u00e9ro plein d&rsquo;action qui oppose le Ultimate Captain America \u00e0 ce qu&rsquo;on pourrait qualifier de seconde g\u00e9n\u00e9ration de son \u00e9quipe. Et quand le feu d&rsquo;artifice se d\u00e9roule dans les rues de Paris et qu&rsquo;on connait les sentiments de Ultimate Cap envers<!--more--> la France on entre dans le r\u00e9cit en se demandant un peu s&rsquo;il la Tour Eiffel sera encore debout \u00e0 la fin de l&rsquo;\u00e9pisode. Mais tr\u00eave de plaisanterie, l&rsquo;alliance Millar\/Pacheco est assez efficace aux fourneaux&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Ultimate Comics Avengers #4 [Marvel]\nSc\u00e9nario de Mark Millar<br \/>\nDessins de Carlos Pacheco<br \/>\n<strong>Sortie aux USA le mercredi 25 novembre 2009<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"19671\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.comicbox.com\/index.php\/news\/avant-premiere-vo-ultimate-comics-avengers-4\/attachment\/ultimateb\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.comicbox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/UltimateB.jpg?fit=350%2C531&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"350,531\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Ultimate Avengers #4\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.comicbox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/UltimateB.jpg?fit=350%2C531&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-19671\" style=\"border: 1px solid black; margin-left: 4px; margin-right: 4px;\" title=\"Ultimate Avengers #4\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.comicbox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/UltimateB.jpg?resize=350%2C531\" alt=\"Ultimate Avengers #4\" width=\"350\" height=\"531\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.comicbox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/UltimateB.jpg?w=350&amp;ssl=1 350w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.comicbox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/UltimateB.jpg?resize=98%2C150&amp;ssl=1 98w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" \/>Il y a toujours beaucoup d&rsquo;arrogance dans les Ultimates (ou peu importe le titre qu&rsquo;on leur donne) de Millar. Je veux dire par l\u00e0 que depuis Ultimates vol.1 #1, les personnages entrent dans l&rsquo;ar\u00e8ne en \u00e9tant convaincu de leur sup\u00e9riorit\u00e9, parfois avec raison, parfois pour se faire humilier de mani\u00e8re cuisante. Quand on voit la nouvelle Black Widow mener son \u00e9quipe \u00ab\u00a0B\u00a0\u00bb contre Cap, en partant un peu la fleur au fusil, on se dit que la racl\u00e9e va \u00eatre s\u00e9v\u00e8re. D&rsquo;autant que le Ultimate Cap n&rsquo;est pas le Steve Rogers de l&rsquo;univers Marvel habituel et qu&rsquo;il est quand m\u00eame quelques crans au dessus au niveau impitoyable. Par moment on pense un peu au premier arc de la JLA de Grant Morrison, quand ce dernier opposait Batman en dernier h\u00e9ros libre \u00e0 une meute de martiens surpuissants. Il y aurait un peu du \u00ab\u00a0Uber-Batman\u00a0\u00bb dans le \u00ab\u00a0Uber-Captain America\u00a0\u00bb ? A voir. Mais il est vrai que quelques-uns de ces seconds couteaux vont \u00eatre mis \u00e0 l&rsquo;amende, parfois d&rsquo;une mani\u00e8re si d\u00e9nu\u00e9e de piti\u00e9 qu&rsquo;on se demande m\u00eame par endroit de quel c\u00f4t\u00e9 on aurait envie d&rsquo;\u00eatre. Au finish le rapport de force n&rsquo;est pas si tranch\u00e9 que \u00e7a et le combat va nous tenir en haleine jusqu&rsquo;\u00e0 la fin de l&rsquo;\u00e9pisode.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Assez t\u00f4t au moment du premier volume d&rsquo;Ultimates je me suis dit que Millar et Hitch auraient pu tuer tous les personnages et garder le ton que ce serait quand m\u00eame rest\u00e9 les Ultimates, parce qu&rsquo;en fin de compte ce n&rsquo;est pas le line-up qui fait la r\u00e9ussite de l&rsquo;histoire (cela dit le seul truc qui choque un peu est une question hors Ultimates, qui tient plus au fait que James Rhodes n&rsquo;a vraiment rien \u00e0 voir niveau mentalit\u00e9 avec ce qu&rsquo;on pouvait voir dans les mini d&rsquo;Orson Scott Card). De nos jours Hitch est pass\u00e9 \u00e0 autre chose, remplac\u00e9 par Pacheco (un style diff\u00e9rent, c&rsquo;est vrai, mais que je consid\u00e8re pour ma part tout \u00e0 fait efficace) et cette notion reste. Quand Millar nous sort des concepts comme le \u00ab\u00a0Nerd Hulk\u00a0\u00bb ou des Captain America pr\u00eats \u00e0 toutes les transgressions, le r\u00e9sultat vaut le d\u00e9tour, avec un certain degr\u00e9 d&rsquo;impr\u00e9visibilit\u00e9&#8230;<\/p>\n[<em>Xavier Fournier<\/em>]\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[FRENCH] Un num\u00e9ro plein d&rsquo;action qui oppose le Ultimate Captain America \u00e0 ce qu&rsquo;on pourrait qualifier de seconde g\u00e9n\u00e9ration 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